Aluminum recycling in Corvallis

The Allied Waste newsletter arrived in the mail today. The folks at Allied Waste put together a concise and easy to read mailing called “At Your Disposal.” I was reading the “Curbside Recycling Update” section when I read about the blurb on aluminum recycling.
Aluminum goes to ALCOA on the east coast and is made into aluminum cans again.
I think it is great that aluminum cans from Corvallis, Oregon are being recycled. However, what is the environmental cost for transporting west coast cans to the east coast for processing? The process seems a little counter intuitive to me. I wonder if environmentally conscious recycling / post-consumer recycling processes need to be analyzed…
What do you think?
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Why don’t they just recycle them on the west coast? No plant?
Bryan Baker
19 Mar 07 at 6:27 pm
That’s a good question Bryan. I sent an email to Allied Waste asking the same thing…
Eric Stoller
19 Mar 07 at 6:37 pm
At the risk of being overly optimistic, aluminum crushes pretty well and is pretty light to begin with, so I wonder if it’s not as costly to transport this amount of volume/mass as we think.
On the other hand, it doesn’t really matter, since doing it on the West Coast would be cheaper under pretty much any circumstances.
Dennis
19 Mar 07 at 10:32 pm
I am thinking along the same lines as Dennis…
Also, let’s not rush to assume that another processing plant on the west coast would have any less of an impact on the environment/be any more cost effective than a truck or train trip to the east coast.
James
20 Mar 07 at 9:08 am
Recycling aluminum cans saves 95% of the energy it would take to make cans from ore. Leaves a lot of room for transportation cost and still produce a generous energy saving benefit.
Much of the west coast scrap aluminum is now shipped off to Asia. Labor and low transportation costs are able to make this cost effective. The Asian market is the biggest consumer of aluminum.
The recycled paper industry (where I work) whose savings are nowhere near the 95% figure of aluminum are facing a lot of pressure from the Asian market as well. While there are bauxite mines for producing aluminum, forests are rare.
Rick Leaf
20 Mar 07 at 10:30 am
Dennis/James – I was watching a “Dirty Jobs” segment where they turned aluminum cans into super-heavy bales. Aluminum is light, but I think they pack it into an extremely dense/heavy bale for shipping. Good question about the west coast vs. east coast….
Rick – Thanks for commenting. I heard a rumor that new aluminum production took a lot of energy vs. recycling aluminum. Thanks for clarifying.
I wonder about the difference between financial cost and environmental costs. I bet we could find some interesting cost/benefit analyses on the web…
Eric Stoller
20 Mar 07 at 1:20 pm
I haven’t come across any good cost/benefit analysis but did find this blog article which does a good job of making the recycling industries case.
Will keep looking for a good spreadsheet or other illustration of $$ and environmental costs/savings.
Rick Leaf
20 Mar 07 at 2:02 pm
http://ovsc.blogspot.com/2007/01/mystery-guest-for-recycling.html
oops forgot to leave the URL in last post.
Rick Leaf
20 Mar 07 at 2:03 pm
I received the following email from Allied Waste today:
Eric Stoller
21 Mar 07 at 1:56 pm
We don’t have any aluminum smelters on the West Coast anymore because of the stupid assed environmentalists! Great thinking. 1940′s to 1980′s there were tons of them at every dam along the Columbia River!
Tim
Tim
26 Mar 07 at 5:15 pm
Yeah, but the plants along the Columbia were nasty polluters and were only there because they got electricity for 2 cents a KWh while the rest of use pay 6 cents. Once the subsidy was gone they moved on and the cheap hydro power for residence and industry means less gas and coal burned facilities to supply power for the NW.
Ted
16 Jul 07 at 11:06 am
Good point. Thanks for commenting
Eric Stoller
18 Jul 07 at 9:26 am