Vimeo and closed captioning
Yesterday’s post on Vimeo, YouTube, accessibility and closed captioning was read, and commented on, by Blake Whitman, Director of Community at Vimeo. Please note that I do not have any ill will towards Vimeo. They make neat things. I just wish that they made them accessible…which really means that their “things” aren’t as neat as they could be.
According to Blake:
I thought I would respond here as I believe there may be a misunderstanding regarding our intentions. We care a great deal about closed captioning and we fully intend to provide such support as soon as we can assign developers to the project. While YouTube has large staff and ample resources, we are a small and dedicated team that works tirelessly to meet all of our users’ needs. We did not mean to offend you or anyone else who would like to see CC support on Vimeo, and we will develop a closed captioning system as soon as we are able to. We apologize for the wait.
Blake was responding to my comment on the lack of captioning technology for Vimeo videos. My comment was driven by a comment that Blake left on the Vimeo forums:
[Captioning] is a very big project and not something that can just happen overnight. We have a lot of higher priority features in the cue right now, and when we find the appropriate time, we will definitely look into offering CC support.
My question to Blake and the folks at Vimeo is how can you “care a great deal about closed captioning” while not actually actively supporting its development?
Two years ago on the Vimeo forums, Blake set the tone regarding Vimeo’s stance on closed captioning and it seems that they really don’t care about making accessible videos a priority:
To be very honest until the demand for a feature like this increases, we probably won’t have the time to develop it.
I wonder how Vimeo is defining “demand”? The following threads on the Vimeo forums have been active for quite a while:
I think that the issue stems from how closed captions and accessibility is viewed at Vimeo. Two months ago, another Vimeo staffer, Dalas Verdugo, made the following comment about subtitles (captions):
This is obviously a useful feature, and we may be able to develop it in time, but contrary to the comments about how “easy” it would be to implement, we do not currently have any developers available to build this feature.
I apologize for any inconvenience this causes, and we’ll certainly keep this feature in mind as we continue to plan and schedule development.
This is not an inconvenience. It’s about access. People who cannot hear, cannot use Vimeo. I think that this shows that Vimeo is not about community. Communities care about all of their members…not just the ones that can hear.
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12 Oct 09 at 10:33 pm
They may be taking the smartest approach. Take the actions that increase revenue and therefore the development team and resources, then add accessibility. It’s a tough choice, but with limited resources and time, choosing accessibility now may put them behind their competitors and out of business.
aaron
13 Oct 09 at 7:11 am
Eric – You hit the nail on the head. However, you left out one very important element when related to higher education: Many of us are state-supported, meaning that we are required by law to follow the accessibility guidelines laid out in section 508 (at least, that’s my understanding – it may vary from state-to-state, though). Therefore, not only is it impossible for hard-of-hearing users to use Vimeo videos, it is extremely unwise (like, you could lose your job over it) for any state-supported institutions (including higher education institutions) to use Vimeo for any video content.
That’s what really hurts from my perspective. I would love to use Vimeo or Viddler in lieu of YouTube, but the bottom line is that neither provides an easy way of captioning videos and/or providing textual representations of the non-text content, which means I can’t.
Curt Grymala
13 Oct 09 at 9:26 am
[...] Google does not always create accessible products (GoogleWave). However, sometimes they do a good job of increasing the accessibility of an existing service. I hope that Vimeo gets the message that accessibility is important. In the first major step toward making millions of videos on YouTube accessible to deaf and hearing-impaired people, Google unveiled new technologies that will automatically bring text captions to many videos on the site. [Google] combined their automatic speech recognition (ASR) technology with the YouTube caption system to offer automatic captions, or auto-caps for short. Auto-caps use the same voice recognition algorithms in Google Voice to automatically generate captions for video. Tags: accessibility, Accessibility Usability, captioning, google, Higher Education, Social Justice, subtitles, technology, Vimeo, youtube [...]
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28 Nov 09 at 8:14 pm
[...] If or when Vimeo adds captioning support, I’ll add captions too. They haven’ t yet. [sad trombone] This work, unless otherwise expressly stated, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial 3.0 United States License. [...]
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20 Jan 10 at 10:34 pm
Perhaps Vimeo can let the “community” develop the closed captioning. Maybe build a contest around it.
Steven Vance
23 Jan 10 at 11:03 am