Comments on: Barack Obama ‘08 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2008/03/27/barack-obama-08/ | social justice | higher education | technology | Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:48:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Dennis http://ericstoller.com/blog/2008/03/27/barack-obama-08/#comment-23362 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:53:26 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2008/03/27/barack-obama-08/#comment-23362 Ha! I deserved that one, I guess. Derek, for future reference, please do not get mad at me for making "unfounded slurs" in one sentence only to brand the entire "left" (whatever that is) in the next based on a single comment I made, especially when I don't even identify as being part of this mysterious "left" you speak of. It creates an unfortunate dissonance, to put it mildly. Your second sentence would have stood very well on its own. And I am not addressing the content of your initial comment because I think it's complete crap. It misses the point. It had nothing new to add to the conversation. It makes problematic assumptions. It reads like it was cribbed from an RNC memo. Iit gets the speech wrong. And it sullies an otherwise nice post. I reserve the right to address things I personally find worth addressing and/or interesting. I'm some dude on the internet, Derek - just because I refuse to take some of your comments seriously doesn't mean anything <i>but that I refuse to take some of your comments seriously.</i> It certainly doesn't mean you won some sort of victory. (I'm not "the left," remember?) Ha!

I deserved that one, I guess.

Derek, for future reference, please do not get mad at me for making “unfounded slurs” in one sentence only to brand the entire “left” (whatever that is) in the next based on a single comment I made, especially when I don’t even identify as being part of this mysterious “left” you speak of.

It creates an unfortunate dissonance, to put it mildly. Your second sentence would have stood very well on its own.

And I am not addressing the content of your initial comment because I think it’s complete crap. It misses the point. It had nothing new to add to the conversation. It makes problematic assumptions. It reads like it was cribbed from an RNC memo. Iit gets the speech wrong. And it sullies an otherwise nice post.

I reserve the right to address things I personally find worth addressing and/or interesting. I’m some dude on the internet, Derek - just because I refuse to take some of your comments seriously doesn’t mean anything but that I refuse to take some of your comments seriously. It certainly doesn’t mean you won some sort of victory. (I’m not “the left,” remember?)

]]> by: FinanceBuzz http://ericstoller.com/blog/2008/03/27/barack-obama-08/#comment-23359 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:37:06 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2008/03/27/barack-obama-08/#comment-23359 Here's an idea, Dennis. Rather making an unfounded and ignorant slur against me while not addressing a single point I made, how about countering what I said. I love how the left makes a beeline to a personal attack the second someone does agree with them. So, care to try again and this time offer some substance? Looks like you might need some talking points if you cannot do better than that. Here’s an idea, Dennis. Rather making an unfounded and ignorant slur against me while not addressing a single point I made, how about countering what I said. I love how the left makes a beeline to a personal attack the second someone does agree with them. So, care to try again and this time offer some substance? Looks like you might need some talking points if you cannot do better than that.

]]> by: Dennis http://ericstoller.com/blog/2008/03/27/barack-obama-08/#comment-23358 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:28:45 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2008/03/27/barack-obama-08/#comment-23358 Derek, I'm going to go ahead and suggest that you shouldn't tax your giant brain overly much about what Obama said - those white supremacist branded blinders I can see from here pretty much guarantee that you'll be unable to take anything Obama says seriously regardless of what it is. Also, do you get those talking points emailed to you on a daily basis, or did you opt for the weekly digest? Derek, I’m going to go ahead and suggest that you shouldn’t tax your giant brain overly much about what Obama said - those white supremacist branded blinders I can see from here pretty much guarantee that you’ll be unable to take anything Obama says seriously regardless of what it is.

Also, do you get those talking points emailed to you on a daily basis, or did you opt for the weekly digest?

]]> by: FinanceBuzz http://ericstoller.com/blog/2008/03/27/barack-obama-08/#comment-23356 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:05:45 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2008/03/27/barack-obama-08/#comment-23356 How sad that you group two of the most impactful tragedies in the American conciousness with a speech made for poltical expediency. What valid points Obama may have had in his speech were lost in the disingenuousness of the moment as a politician, despite portrayals to the contrary, attempted to distance himself from radical views only when "caught." This speech may have carried some lasting meaning had it been done from the heart and not as an act of political maneuvering. This is a shame as it was hopeful for America that Obama was a presidential candidate who happened to be a black man as opposed to a black man who was a presidential candidate. Now as we learn about the views of two people very close to him - his wife and his pastor - we have need to question what really is Obama's views on race relations. To paraphrase Sen. Zell Miller from his speech at the 2004 GOP convention, Obama's views over the years are far more relevant than a speech made in the heat of controversy in the midst of a presidential campaign. How sad that you group two of the most impactful tragedies in the American conciousness with a speech made for poltical expediency. What valid points Obama may have had in his speech were lost in the disingenuousness of the moment as a politician, despite portrayals to the contrary, attempted to distance himself from radical views only when “caught.” This speech may have carried some lasting meaning had it been done from the heart and not as an act of political maneuvering.

This is a shame as it was hopeful for America that Obama was a presidential candidate who happened to be a black man as opposed to a black man who was a presidential candidate. Now as we learn about the views of two people very close to him - his wife and his pastor - we have need to question what really is Obama’s views on race relations. To paraphrase Sen. Zell Miller from his speech at the 2004 GOP convention, Obama’s views over the years are far more relevant than a speech made in the heat of controversy in the midst of a presidential campaign.

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