Comments on: Torii Mor Winery http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/10/torii-mor-winery/ | social justice | higher education | technology | Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:03:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Eric Stoller http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/10/torii-mor-winery/#comment-22982 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:26:39 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/10/torii-mor-winery/#comment-22982 Thanks for commenting. I am sorry to hear that you also had a bad experience at Torii Mor Winery. The good news is that there are a lot of vineyards in Oregon that we can go to instead of Torii Mor. Perhaps the <a href="http://www.stollervineyards.com/">Stoller vineyard</a> ;-) Thanks for commenting. I am sorry to hear that you also had a bad experience at Torii Mor Winery. The good news is that there are a lot of vineyards in Oregon that we can go to instead of Torii Mor. Perhaps the Stoller vineyard ;-)

]]> by: Austine Kingsley (Winery schill) http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/10/torii-mor-winery/#comment-22878 Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:28:10 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/10/torii-mor-winery/#comment-22878 Wow, Wow, I am a liitle late to the party here. This post was back in December and I just returned from Torii Mor and had the same experince. We were a white couple with two 'black' friends. They told us that we could not stand at the bar because it was rserved for a larger group. They never did show up, it was empty during our vist. The mean women snatched our money, they hastily poured our glasses (spilling wine every where). Then some bad-mean-thug told us that under no circumstance were we to go outside of the tasting room. He actually said "if you do not like it get out, your not welcome here" I will never go back and we are considering logging a formal complaint. Wow,

Wow, I am a liitle late to the party here. This post was back in December and I just returned from Torii Mor and had the same experince. We were a white couple with two ‘black’ friends. They told us that we could not stand at the bar because it was rserved for a larger group. They never did show up, it was empty during our vist. The mean women snatched our money, they hastily poured our glasses (spilling wine every where). Then some bad-mean-thug told us that under no circumstance were we to go outside of the tasting room. He actually said “if you do not like it get out, your not welcome here”

I will never go back and we are considering logging a formal complaint.

]]> by: Austine Kingsley http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/10/torii-mor-winery/#comment-18184 Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:49:03 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/10/torii-mor-winery/#comment-18184 Wow... I find your blog quite interesting but completely in a diffrent non real world than the occurance we witnessed at Torii Mor on our visit and I believe it was when YOU and your group came in. Ironcially you playing the race card is the most aggravating part of your blog because I am black and was there with 3 others, one other black and 2 Indonesian. I am sure you did not have a chance to notice us since you were too busy bullying your way into a crowded tasting room with your group of 6 and NO appointment. Your sense of entitlement amazed me.We played by the rules (and so did a group of 8 that was there at the same time) by making an appointment. It had been explained to us that their cute little tasting room was so small that larger parties would find that making reservations would allow for the staff to accomodate that group and be able to talk about the wines and have good personal time to offer us. Your group barging in on us and the others would have made our experience a much lesser one and stressed that already full tasting room and its wonderful staff to beyond its abilities. I heard the gracious woman explain this to you as you repeatedly tried to justify it by saying only 5 would be tasting. And it could have been only 1 taster but all six bodies were still there maxing out space. I also heard her graciously offer you the ability, if you were not adverse to it, to taste outside in the garden. You all pow wowed about that and then chose to buy glasses instead. That clearly meant you had no desire to truley learn and taste the Torii Mor wines but just drinking in my mind. I was glad you were out there, so that we could continue our education and learning of their gorgeous wines. One by one, you and your group butt in to the area where we were tasting and one by one, the woman you disliked whom we loved helped you while trying to continue her time with us. I heard her explain the smaller pour to the dessert wine person, and I took that as a way of her trying to make sure that person understood and was not disappointed with the lesser amount. Gracious not Rude. The fact that you were a "seasoned" wine drinker was not written anywhere on you, and clearly she had no way of knowing that since you chose not to do a tasting but glass pour instead. What is most frustrating of all is that you would have the nerve to blame all of this on the color of the skin in your group. How pathetic and sad that you could not have simply made an appointment that would have allowed you the beautiful ( we joined the club there ) time we had instead of walking past the clearly displayed rules of groups of 6 or more and thinking that you all shoud just get your way because you existed on the planet earth and had graced them with your presence. Unbelievable! And on a side note... while we were there, we witnessed 3 other couples come in searching this so called mean woman out since she had moved from another winery to Torii Mor. Hugs exchanged and clear admiration for her was apparent. I would challenge you all to go in again... appointment made if your group is again 6, and see how you are treated, and then get back on this blog of yours and correct yourselves. You will feel badly that you had the nerve to blog this at all. Wow… I find your blog quite interesting but completely in a diffrent non real world than the occurance we witnessed at Torii Mor on our visit and I believe it was when YOU and your group came in. Ironcially you playing the race card is the most aggravating part of your blog because I am black and was there with 3 others, one other black and 2 Indonesian. I am sure you did not have a chance to notice us since you were too busy bullying your way into a crowded tasting room with your group of 6 and NO appointment. Your sense of entitlement amazed me.We played by the rules (and so did a group of 8 that was there at the same time) by making an appointment. It had been explained to us that their cute little tasting room was so small that larger parties would find that making reservations would allow for the staff to accomodate that group and be able to talk about the wines and have good personal time to offer us. Your group barging in on us and the others would have made our experience a much lesser one and stressed that already full tasting room and its wonderful staff to beyond its abilities. I heard the gracious woman explain this to you as you repeatedly tried to justify it by saying only 5 would be tasting. And it could have been only 1 taster but all six bodies were still there maxing out space. I also heard her graciously offer you the ability, if you were not adverse to it, to taste outside in the garden. You all pow wowed about that and then chose to buy glasses instead. That clearly meant you had no desire to truley learn and taste the Torii Mor wines but just drinking in my mind. I was glad you were out there, so that we could continue our education and learning of their gorgeous wines. One by one, you and your group butt in to the area where we were tasting and one by one, the woman you disliked whom we loved helped you while trying to continue her time with us. I heard her explain the smaller pour to the dessert wine person, and I took that as a way of her trying to make sure that person understood and was not disappointed with the lesser amount. Gracious not Rude. The fact that you were a “seasoned” wine drinker was not written anywhere on you, and clearly she had no way of knowing that since you chose not to do a tasting but glass pour instead.

What is most frustrating of all is that you would have the nerve to blame all of this on the color of the skin in your group. How pathetic and sad that you could not have simply made an appointment that would have allowed you the beautiful ( we joined the club there ) time we had instead of walking past the clearly displayed rules of groups of 6 or more and thinking that you all shoud just get your way because you existed on the planet earth and had graced them with your presence. Unbelievable!

And on a side note… while we were there, we witnessed 3 other couples come in searching this so called mean woman out since she had moved from another winery to Torii Mor. Hugs exchanged and clear admiration for her was apparent.

I would challenge you all to go in again… appointment made if your group is again 6, and see how you are treated, and then get back on this blog of yours and correct yourselves. You will feel badly that you had the nerve to blog this at all.

]]> by: Eric Stoller http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/10/torii-mor-winery/#comment-16137 Sun, 14 Oct 2007 22:42:47 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/10/torii-mor-winery/#comment-16137 LP was going to write a letter (I need to check in and see if it went out...) and I have been getting a lot of traffic from Google searches for Torii Mor Winery. LP was going to write a letter (I need to check in and see if it went out…) and I have been getting a lot of traffic from Google searches for Torii Mor Winery.

]]> by: Yvette http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/10/torii-mor-winery/#comment-16038 Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:45:12 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/10/torii-mor-winery/#comment-16038 My policy has been for a long time not to give my business to places that mistreat me--due to race or any other reason. Spending my time and money but then vowing to never return again is not enough. Nor is leaving without letting management know of my dissatisfaction. My policy has been for a long time not to give my business to places that mistreat me–due to race or any other reason. Spending my time and money but then vowing to never return again is not enough. Nor is leaving without letting management know of my dissatisfaction.

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