Comments on: NASPA + Abercrombie & Fitch http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/09/naspa-abercrombie-fitch/ | social justice | higher education | technology | Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:42:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: Eric Stoller http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/09/naspa-abercrombie-fitch/#comment-14881 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:40:00 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/09/naspa-abercrombie-fitch/#comment-14881 NASPA has decided that it will not be partnering with A&F. See the update at the top of the post... NASPA has decided that it will not be partnering with A&F. See the update at the top of the post…

]]> by: Dennis http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/09/naspa-abercrombie-fitch/#comment-14823 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:57:25 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/09/naspa-abercrombie-fitch/#comment-14823 Uuh..... yeah, I'll go with that. Yay for common ground! Uuh….. yeah, I’ll go with that. Yay for common ground!

]]> by: FinanceBuzz http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/09/naspa-abercrombie-fitch/#comment-14820 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:28:22 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/09/naspa-abercrombie-fitch/#comment-14820 Perhaps we agree on something - distaste for A&F. I was more concerned of the nearly soft-porn nature of their marketing photos on their sites. I am concerned with the message these photos send than the color of a few models used to shoot them. Perhaps we agree on something - distaste for A&F. I was more concerned of the nearly soft-porn nature of their marketing photos on their sites. I am concerned with the message these photos send than the color of a few models used to shoot them.

]]> by: Dennis http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/09/naspa-abercrombie-fitch/#comment-14809 Mon, 10 Sep 2007 01:18:22 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/09/naspa-abercrombie-fitch/#comment-14809 Call me when A&F sees the light, stops selling anything for money, and turns into a social-justice nonprofit with the goals of eliminating patriarchy, racism, and other forms of oppression. That's who NASPA should be partnering with. Eric, I can't wait until you're required to wear A&F gear while on the job! Call me when A&F sees the light, stops selling anything for money, and turns into a social-justice nonprofit with the goals of eliminating patriarchy, racism, and other forms of oppression.

That’s who NASPA should be partnering with.

Eric, I can’t wait until you’re required to wear A&F gear while on the job!

]]> by: Luke http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/09/naspa-abercrombie-fitch/#comment-14803 Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:15:48 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/09/09/naspa-abercrombie-fitch/#comment-14803 <blockquote>...NASPA has both the real capacity and ethical responsibility to positively influence the policies and practices of corporate entities such as A&F. It is not enough to cast blame and make accusations; just as we teach our students that leaders must serve an active and constructive role in helping to bring about improvement change, so must we also role model the way.</blockquote> I wouldn't say that I disagree with this statement; however, the inclusion of this statement <i>with the corporate sponsorship</i> makes me feel that NASPA is trying to associate corporate change with corporate partnering. Those are two seperate concepts, and one does not necessarily follow from the other. <blockquote>This partnership will give A&F and NASPA an opportunity to learn from each other.</blockquote> How? Is this just vague double-speak? "We will learn how A&F sends money to non-profit organizations, and they will learn how flexible our ethics are" wouldn't count as learning, IMHO. <blockquote>In addition, it gives A&F an opportunity to hear from student affairs educators what we are doing to promote the values of diversity, multiculturalism, and social justice on a grassroots level.</blockquote> Great. Break out the champagne, I'm sure A&F will love to read about what NASPA is doing in a once-a-quarter newsletter. Ugh, I can't even begin to talk about the rest. It uses so many forms of poor logic, including but not limited to: use of meaningless statistics, referencing authority, tokenism... Can you tell that I have strong problems with "corporate charity"? :-)

…NASPA has both the real capacity and ethical responsibility to positively influence the policies and practices of corporate entities such as A&F. It is not enough to cast blame and make accusations; just as we teach our students that leaders must serve an active and constructive role in helping to bring about improvement change, so must we also role model the way.

I wouldn’t say that I disagree with this statement; however, the inclusion of this statement with the corporate sponsorship makes me feel that NASPA is trying to associate corporate change with corporate partnering. Those are two seperate concepts, and one does not necessarily follow from the other.

This partnership will give A&F and NASPA an opportunity to learn from each other.

How? Is this just vague double-speak? “We will learn how A&F sends money to non-profit organizations, and they will learn how flexible our ethics are” wouldn’t count as learning, IMHO.

In addition, it gives A&F an opportunity to hear from student affairs educators what we are doing to promote the values of diversity, multiculturalism, and social justice on a grassroots level.

Great. Break out the champagne, I’m sure A&F will love to read about what NASPA is doing in a once-a-quarter newsletter.

Ugh, I can’t even begin to talk about the rest. It uses so many forms of poor logic, including but not limited to: use of meaningless statistics, referencing authority, tokenism…

Can you tell that I have strong problems with “corporate charity”? :-)

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