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		<title>by: FinanceBuzz</title>
		<link>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/08/11/special-treatment/#comment-13938</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Eric, the link is still coming up with "Problem loading page."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, the link is still coming up with &#8220;Problem loading page.&#8221;
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		<title>by: FinanceBuzz</title>
		<link>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/08/11/special-treatment/#comment-13937</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not sure how installing foot-washing basins in the interest of protecting students’ physical safety has any effect on Christianity. Are they ripping out the Christians-only drinking fountains to install them?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This particular point is about the hypocrisy of installing these basins.  Please correlate installing devices in government facilities, using taxpayer money, to facilitate the practice of a particular religion (they can argue that it can be used to fill mop buckets by janitors or what not, but they were installed for a primary reason).  At the same time, the utterance of Christmas or a Christmas carol sometimes results in a lawsuit or a prohibition of such on these college campuses?

&lt;blockquote&gt;I think it’s important to point out the inherent hypocrisy in claiming to be a “melting pot” of various cultural groups when the reality is that the nonwhite/nonChristian cultures are forced to leave out of the pot any aspects of their cultures that aren’t nonwhite/nonChristian.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why are the cultural aspects of all groups worth protecting except those of Americans, especially Christian Americans?  The very document you praise is all about removing a very important aspect of our culture?  Why do these have to be removed but yet everyone other culture should not be expected to assimilate into the culture of the country to which they have come (for those who have moved to America)?  

I have no problem with people wanting to maintain their own culture.  However, do not come to my house, even if I have allowed you to move as a resident, and start trying to tell me that I cannot have many cultural that are important to me because they might not agree with your viewpoint or sensibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m not sure how installing foot-washing basins in the interest of protecting students’ physical safety has any effect on Christianity. Are they ripping out the Christians-only drinking fountains to install them?</p></blockquote>
<p>This particular point is about the hypocrisy of installing these basins.  Please correlate installing devices in government facilities, using taxpayer money, to facilitate the practice of a particular religion (they can argue that it can be used to fill mop buckets by janitors or what not, but they were installed for a primary reason).  At the same time, the utterance of Christmas or a Christmas carol sometimes results in a lawsuit or a prohibition of such on these college campuses?</p>
<blockquote><p>I think it’s important to point out the inherent hypocrisy in claiming to be a “melting pot” of various cultural groups when the reality is that the nonwhite/nonChristian cultures are forced to leave out of the pot any aspects of their cultures that aren’t nonwhite/nonChristian.</p></blockquote>
<p>Why are the cultural aspects of all groups worth protecting except those of Americans, especially Christian Americans?  The very document you praise is all about removing a very important aspect of our culture?  Why do these have to be removed but yet everyone other culture should not be expected to assimilate into the culture of the country to which they have come (for those who have moved to America)?  </p>
<p>I have no problem with people wanting to maintain their own culture.  However, do not come to my house, even if I have allowed you to move as a resident, and start trying to tell me that I cannot have many cultural that are important to me because they might not agree with your viewpoint or sensibilities.
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		<title>by: Eric Stoller</title>
		<link>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/08/11/special-treatment/#comment-13899</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Michelle - Great comment! I especially liked this part:
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I think it’s important to point out the inherent hypocrisy in claiming to be a “melting pot” of various cultural groups when the reality is that the nonwhite/nonChristian cultures are forced to leave out of the pot any aspects of their cultures that aren’t nonwhite/nonChristian.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

PS: Here's the link to the article on Political Correctness since the first one did not work: &lt;a href="http://www.kaichang.net/2006/11/the_sloppy_prop.html"&gt;http://www.kaichang.net/2006/11/the_sloppy_prop.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle - Great comment! I especially liked this part:</p>
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I think it’s important to point out the inherent hypocrisy in claiming to be a “melting pot” of various cultural groups when the reality is that the nonwhite/nonChristian cultures are forced to leave out of the pot any aspects of their cultures that aren’t nonwhite/nonChristian.</p></blockquote>
<p>PS: Here&#8217;s the link to the article on Political Correctness since the first one did not work: <a href="http://www.kaichang.net/2006/11/the_sloppy_prop.html">http://www.kaichang.net/2006/11/the_sloppy_prop.html</a>
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		<title>by: Michelle Marie</title>
		<link>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/08/11/special-treatment/#comment-13898</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 22:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm not sure how installing foot-washing basins in the interest of protecting students' physical safety has any effect on Christianity. Are they ripping out the Christians-only drinking fountains to install them?

While I do recognize that the founders of the US were Christian/Deist, if we are going to invoke the principle of Legitimizing Current Inequities Based On The History Of This Nation, I think it's important to point out the inherent hypocrisy in claiming to be a "melting pot" of various cultural groups when the reality is that the nonwhite/nonChristian cultures are forced to leave out of the pot any aspects of their cultures that aren't nonwhite/nonChristian. 

The article on Christian privilege is great! (All of it.) I wouldn't have known to recognize most of the things non-Christian students recognize as contributing to their marginalization. Guess why? &lt;em&gt;**dramatic pause for emphasis**&lt;/em&gt; I was raised Christian! 

(Just in case anyone asks, I am on the "side" of creating educational institutions which validate the experiences of &lt;strong&gt;all &lt;/strong&gt;their members - Christians, Muslims, athiests, lesbians, parents, and so on - and which do not perpetuate systematic privilege and oppression.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how installing foot-washing basins in the interest of protecting students&#8217; physical safety has any effect on Christianity. Are they ripping out the Christians-only drinking fountains to install them?</p>
<p>While I do recognize that the founders of the US were Christian/Deist, if we are going to invoke the principle of Legitimizing Current Inequities Based On The History Of This Nation, I think it&#8217;s important to point out the inherent hypocrisy in claiming to be a &#8220;melting pot&#8221; of various cultural groups when the reality is that the nonwhite/nonChristian cultures are forced to leave out of the pot any aspects of their cultures that aren&#8217;t nonwhite/nonChristian. </p>
<p>The article on Christian privilege is great! (All of it.) I wouldn&#8217;t have known to recognize most of the things non-Christian students recognize as contributing to their marginalization. Guess why? <em>**dramatic pause for emphasis**</em> I was raised Christian! </p>
<p>(Just in case anyone asks, I am on the &#8220;side&#8221; of creating educational institutions which validate the experiences of <strong>all </strong>their members - Christians, Muslims, athiests, lesbians, parents, and so on - and which do not perpetuate systematic privilege and oppression.)
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		<title>by: Eric Stoller</title>
		<link>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/08/11/special-treatment/#comment-13885</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>LOL. I thought you had placed me on some sort of side since you had said "Don’t worry your side is winning." 

Translation: I have no problem creating space as long as I don't have to create space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. I thought you had placed me on some sort of side since you had said &#8220;Don’t worry your side is winning.&#8221; </p>
<p>Translation: I have no problem creating space as long as I don&#8217;t have to create space.
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