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	<title>Comments on: Context and Comments</title>
	<link>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/03/11/context-and-comments/</link>
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		<title>by: Eric Stoller</title>
		<link>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/03/11/context-and-comments/#comment-5116</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 18:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm really glad that the additional context helped.

Ann -- I totally agree with you on the "calling out" your partner's family members. It's definitely difficult to maintain relationships while attempting to talk about difficult subjects.

..and yes, your run on sentence broke my blog and apparently you also &lt;a href="http://weblog.mediatemple.net/weblog/2007/03/13/web-email-and-ftp-segments-unavailable-on-gs-gridcluster1/"&gt;broke the Media Temple Grid Servers&lt;/a&gt; ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really glad that the additional context helped.</p>
<p>Ann &#8212; I totally agree with you on the &#8220;calling out&#8221; your partner&#8217;s family members. It&#8217;s definitely difficult to maintain relationships while attempting to talk about difficult subjects.</p>
<p>..and yes, your run on sentence broke my blog and apparently you also <a href="http://weblog.mediatemple.net/weblog/2007/03/13/web-email-and-ftp-segments-unavailable-on-gs-gridcluster1/">broke the Media Temple Grid Servers</a> <img src='http://ericstoller.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: annz0r</title>
		<link>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/03/11/context-and-comments/#comment-5112</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/03/11/context-and-comments/#comment-5112</guid>
					<description>My run on sentence broke your blog!  It was down for awhile after I posted it.

Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My run on sentence broke your blog!  It was down for awhile after I posted it.</p>
<p>Heh.
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		<title>by: annz0r</title>
		<link>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/03/11/context-and-comments/#comment-5107</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I've been meaning to reply but with all this DST BS I've just been coming home and playing video games after work. :p

I think the context of the previous post would have made things a little [lot] clearer. Upon reading your post for the first time, I mostly felt bad for your "friends" and thought about how mad I'd be if we had hung out and a couple weeks later there was a less than complimentary blog post about me and/or Vic when the situation probably could have been diffused with a few pointed comments.  I wasn't going to comment originally, but every time I read it over I cringed for your friends, heh.

Family business is largely different.  I'm glad Wendy felt comfortable enough to allow the sharing of her experiences.  I have noticed many similar things about Vic's family (and even about my own), but you can't really call out your significant other's family members or talk to them about something that may well be ingrained in their minds and personas.  Well, I suppose you &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt;, but it wouldn't put you in their best graces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been meaning to reply but with all this DST BS I&#8217;ve just been coming home and playing video games after work. :p</p>
<p>I think the context of the previous post would have made things a little [lot] clearer. Upon reading your post for the first time, I mostly felt bad for your &#8220;friends&#8221; and thought about how mad I&#8217;d be if we had hung out and a couple weeks later there was a less than complimentary blog post about me and/or Vic when the situation probably could have been diffused with a few pointed comments.  I wasn&#8217;t going to comment originally, but every time I read it over I cringed for your friends, heh.</p>
<p>Family business is largely different.  I&#8217;m glad Wendy felt comfortable enough to allow the sharing of her experiences.  I have noticed many similar things about Vic&#8217;s family (and even about my own), but you can&#8217;t really call out your significant other&#8217;s family members or talk to them about something that may well be ingrained in their minds and personas.  Well, I suppose you <i>could</i>, but it wouldn&#8217;t put you in their best graces.
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		<title>by: Annette C Martel</title>
		<link>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/03/11/context-and-comments/#comment-5092</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/03/11/context-and-comments/#comment-5092</guid>
					<description>Wow! You are so thoughtful, Eric. And Wendy, thanks to you for being willing to share so much personal information for the sake of filling in the context around this post and hopefully making people understand more fully.

It's interesting that you mention context (you' and Wendy are both high context, like me, if I remember right), because although I am religious reader of your blog, I rarely comment, because I feel like there is so much context that I want to add that I don't have time to. Also, there is the context of all of our experiences and so there are certain assumptions that I make about all of your posts (i.e. filling in the context based on previous conversations, etc.), and admittedly, I was left wanting for more context after your last post. However, based on knowing you and Wendy, I assumed you wouldn't choose an example that was not, indeed, sexism. At the same time, I can see how those without some of the context would feel otherwise.

I admire your openness to criticism and learning. And I think that's the only way we make this world better: by being able to take the ego blows or admit when we screw up or that we don't know everything about the ism's but we know we want to do whatever we can to get rid of them.

And I think you're very correct in not leaving these issues to classrooms or laboratories, but to dissect the every-day occurrences of sexism, etc. I do agree that it can be very difficult to address these issues right as they are happening, particularly when they are occurring with  family members. I know that many times when people say something sexist for instance, I am often so shocked and amazed that they would say something like that, that my brain kind of fries for a moment. Anyway, I try, however, to challenge myself to address these things in whatever way possible (often I use humor, when appropriate, to point out the absurdity of what people are saying and go from there).

Anyway, there's not enough to time to put all the context I want into my comment. But I hope it makes sense to you, Eric, based on our context...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! You are so thoughtful, Eric. And Wendy, thanks to you for being willing to share so much personal information for the sake of filling in the context around this post and hopefully making people understand more fully.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting that you mention context (you&#8217; and Wendy are both high context, like me, if I remember right), because although I am religious reader of your blog, I rarely comment, because I feel like there is so much context that I want to add that I don&#8217;t have time to. Also, there is the context of all of our experiences and so there are certain assumptions that I make about all of your posts (i.e. filling in the context based on previous conversations, etc.), and admittedly, I was left wanting for more context after your last post. However, based on knowing you and Wendy, I assumed you wouldn&#8217;t choose an example that was not, indeed, sexism. At the same time, I can see how those without some of the context would feel otherwise.</p>
<p>I admire your openness to criticism and learning. And I think that&#8217;s the only way we make this world better: by being able to take the ego blows or admit when we screw up or that we don&#8217;t know everything about the ism&#8217;s but we know we want to do whatever we can to get rid of them.</p>
<p>And I think you&#8217;re very correct in not leaving these issues to classrooms or laboratories, but to dissect the every-day occurrences of sexism, etc. I do agree that it can be very difficult to address these issues right as they are happening, particularly when they are occurring with  family members. I know that many times when people say something sexist for instance, I am often so shocked and amazed that they would say something like that, that my brain kind of fries for a moment. Anyway, I try, however, to challenge myself to address these things in whatever way possible (often I use humor, when appropriate, to point out the absurdity of what people are saying and go from there).</p>
<p>Anyway, there&#8217;s not enough to time to put all the context I want into my comment. But I hope it makes sense to you, Eric, based on our context&#8230;
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		<title>by: Michelle Marie</title>
		<link>http://ericstoller.com/blog/2007/03/11/context-and-comments/#comment-5091</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hi Eric,
I agree with the poster who recognized that the hostile comments weren't really to do with your blog. I went back and re-read your original post and I felt like I "got" it (what you were saying just made sense), which I don't think your angry readers did. Which is not to say that their responses are not valid, becasue of course they are perfectly valid emotions and responses based on where they are coming from, but it's just that you were 'having two different conversations.' This happens to me all the time! Mostly in conversation with my mother ... 
Anyway, your reflections on the world around you always seem insightful and thoughtful to me, so keep up the good work! All any of us can do is to express our analyses and reflections and criticisms - all of which are largely based on our experience and our perspective. You happen to occupy an unusual position, in that you are a person of privilege who is aware of it! It is a weird stance to take; whenever I am in a position to teach about women of color, I realize just how weird it is for me, as a white woman, to be doing so. And yet I must, because remaining silent about inequality is an excellent way to maintain it ... 

Ok, I'm off to discuss Judith Butler now! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric,<br />
I agree with the poster who recognized that the hostile comments weren&#8217;t really to do with your blog. I went back and re-read your original post and I felt like I &#8220;got&#8221; it (what you were saying just made sense), which I don&#8217;t think your angry readers did. Which is not to say that their responses are not valid, becasue of course they are perfectly valid emotions and responses based on where they are coming from, but it&#8217;s just that you were &#8216;having two different conversations.&#8217; This happens to me all the time! Mostly in conversation with my mother &#8230;<br />
Anyway, your reflections on the world around you always seem insightful and thoughtful to me, so keep up the good work! All any of us can do is to express our analyses and reflections and criticisms - all of which are largely based on our experience and our perspective. You happen to occupy an unusual position, in that you are a person of privilege who is aware of it! It is a weird stance to take; whenever I am in a position to teach about women of color, I realize just how weird it is for me, as a white woman, to be doing so. And yet I must, because remaining silent about inequality is an excellent way to maintain it &#8230; </p>
<p>Ok, I&#8217;m off to discuss Judith Butler now! <img src='http://ericstoller.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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