Comments on: It was an interesting ALS 116 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2006/02/07/it-was-an-interesting-als-116/ | social justice | higher education | technology | Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:25:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.7 by: fournier http://ericstoller.com/blog/2006/02/07/it-was-an-interesting-als-116/#comment-249 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 05:24:45 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2006/02/07/it-was-an-interesting-als-116/#comment-249 i'll try again. <a href="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/01/26/women-who-dont-call-it-rape/#comment-97294">here</a>. like i said above, the whole post is excellent, as are the comments. the posts that are linked to at the top are definitely worth checking out. there's a great critique of standpoint theory over at the "<a href="http://dsadevil.blogspot.com/2006/01/rape-from-perspective-of-its-victims.html">the debate link</a>" post. i've wanted to do a post on it, but i haven't really figured out how to handle the matter so i've just kind of passed it on in emails and comments instead. (if i had a higher volume readership, i might feel more compelled... :) ) i’ll try again. here.

like i said above, the whole post is excellent, as are the comments. the posts that are linked to at the top are definitely worth checking out. there’s a great critique of standpoint theory over at the “the debate link” post.

i’ve wanted to do a post on it, but i haven’t really figured out how to handle the matter so i’ve just kind of passed it on in emails and comments instead. (if i had a higher volume readership, i might feel more compelled… :) )

]]> by: Eric Dwight http://ericstoller.com/blog/2006/02/07/it-was-an-interesting-als-116/#comment-248 Thu, 09 Feb 2006 05:07:44 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2006/02/07/it-was-an-interesting-als-116/#comment-248 Fournier, the "exercise" link does not contain a URL. Could you please re-post it. Thanks for the insight. I've tried to develop a safe classroom atmosphere and I agree that shaming someone is not useful technique. I think it's a profound mistake within higher education that diversity and social justice is all too often seen as the territory of a few select disciplines. Thanks for your support. p.s. I'm glad that you have high standards :-) Fournier, the “exercise” link does not contain a URL. Could you please re-post it. Thanks for the insight. I’ve tried to develop a safe classroom atmosphere and I agree that shaming someone is not useful technique. I think it’s a profound mistake within higher education that diversity and social justice is all too often seen as the territory of a few select disciplines. Thanks for your support.

p.s. I’m glad that you have high standards :-)

]]> by: fournier http://ericstoller.com/blog/2006/02/07/it-was-an-interesting-als-116/#comment-239 Wed, 08 Feb 2006 00:37:39 +0000 http://ericstoller.com/blog/2006/02/07/it-was-an-interesting-als-116/#comment-239 <em>"(How do you squash dominant-ignorant viewpoints, maintain a safe classroom, and still allow this student to feel like he can voice his opinion?) It was probably the most challenging moment I have ever experienced in a classroom."</em> not an enviable situation. i would suggest, if only to prevent future occurrences in this particular class, that you might want to at least speak to him outside the context of the classroom about it. young men rarely respond well to, what they might perceive as, public shaming. for future classes, you might include setting certain ground rules for discussions. (maybe you already do this) one ground rule might be: consider how the subject might be viewed from an alternate paradigm before speaking. (maybe that's too much to expect, but i have pretty high standards...) also, i just read about <a>an exercise</a> that *might* or might not be appropriate for your class. i read it while looking through the parent post which i was going to recommend to you anyway. the parent post and the posts that it links too at the very beginning cover a really interesting perspective on rape and how it's handled/discussed/viewed (and particularly, possibly, by college students). i hope you find it useful. btw, thanks for the link to my blog. the concept of privilege is often very difficult for the privileged to grasp. i salute you for attempting to do so at OSU, especially in a class that doesn't seem to be part of a gender/ethnic studies program. it's certainly not likely to be friendly territory. “(How do you squash dominant-ignorant viewpoints, maintain a safe classroom, and still allow this student to feel like he can voice his opinion?) It was probably the most challenging moment I have ever experienced in a classroom.”

not an enviable situation. i would suggest, if only to prevent future occurrences in this particular class, that you might want to at least speak to him outside the context of the classroom about it. young men rarely respond well to, what they might perceive as, public shaming. for future classes, you might include setting certain ground rules for discussions. (maybe you already do this) one ground rule might be: consider how the subject might be viewed from an alternate paradigm before speaking. (maybe that’s too much to expect, but i have pretty high standards…)

also, i just read about an exercise that *might* or might not be appropriate for your class. i read it while looking through the parent post which i was going to recommend to you anyway. the parent post and the posts that it links too at the very beginning cover a really interesting perspective on rape and how it’s handled/discussed/viewed (and particularly, possibly, by college students). i hope you find it useful.

btw, thanks for the link to my blog. the concept of privilege is often very difficult for the privileged to grasp. i salute you for attempting to do so at OSU, especially in a class that doesn’t seem to be part of a gender/ethnic studies program. it’s certainly not likely to be friendly territory.

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